>> THIS IS A FOLLOW-UP TO THE MEETING ON MAY 8 AS TO THE
[The purpose for this Special Meeting Work Session is solely for discussion purposes of Public Safety Communications and no action will be taken during this Special Meeting Work Session. ]
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STATUS OF THE RADIO DISPOSITION COMMUNICATION SYSTEM.WE WANT THIS TO BE A WORKSHOP TO DEAL WITH THE QUESTIONS THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THEN TO MAKE SOME INTRODUCTORY COMMENTS FROM THE STATES PERSPECTIVE AND THEN THE CHIEF MASTER HOPEFULLY NOT TOO LONG OF THE PRESENTATION WHICH IS MORE ANSWERING QUESTIONS ON THE FLOOR IS OPEN TO QUESTIONS IF I HAVE TOO MANY HANDS AT ONCE THAT I HAVE TO GO IN ORDER BEST I CAN. FOR THOSE WHO ACTUALLY PARTICIPATED TODAY MICHAEL?
>> M. MEEK: GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE STATE IT DEPARTMENT.
LIKE TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF OUR RADIO PROGRAM AND WHERE WE ARE AT RIGHT NOW WITH THE DEPLOYMENT FROM THE STATEWIDE PERSPECTIVE. THE DTR SYSTEM IS NOW IN YEAR FOUR OF APPROXIMATELY SEVEN FOR DEPLOYMENT. THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT REMAINS AT $170 MILLION ANTICIPATED FOR STATEWIDE DEPLOYMENT AND AS OF THIS WEEK WE HAVE ABOUT 40 AGENCIES THAT HAVE PARTICIPATED IN SERVICE ON THE SYSTEM BETWEEN STATE-LEVEL ENTITIES TRIBAL FEDERAL AND LOCAL ENTITIES.
ADOPTION OF THE SYSTEM HAS BEEN VERY GOOD COURSE THE MAIN GOAL IS TO PROVIDE A UNIFIED PLATFORM FOR SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS TO IMPROVE INTEROPERABILITY AND COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN AGENCIES DURING PLANNED AND UNPLANNED EVENTS. ADOPTION HAS BEEN GOOD ESPECIALLY AROUND THE METRO AREA BUT OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE AS WELL WITH 40 AGENCIES.
CURRENTLY WE HAVE 34 SITES ONLINE CONTRIBUTING ABOUT 40 PERCENT GEOGRAPHIC TOTALS WITHIN NEW MEXICO BUT WITH THAT TRANSLATES TO WITH SANDOVAL COUNTY IS ABOUT 73.8 PERCENT COVERAGE GEOGRAPHICALLY TODAY WITHIN SANDOVAL COUNTY.
WE HAVE 56 ADDITIONAL SITES AND DEPLOYMENT THAT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO A TOTAL OF 61 PERCENT COVERAGE STATEWIDE WHICH TRANSLATES INTO 82 PERCENT COVERAGE FOR SANDOVAL COUNTY.
BY THE END OF THE NEXT UPGRADE PHRASE 12 MONTHS FROM NOW SANDOVAL COUNTY WILL HAVE MORE COVERAGE WE WILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THE COVERAGE WITHIN SANDOVAL COUNTY AND OTHER AREAS AS WELL. ULTIMATELY WE ARE WORKING OUR WAY UP AT 170 SITES FOR DEPLOYMENT STATEWIDE WHICH WILL RAISE THE COVERAGE TO AROUND 92 PERCENT TOTAL GEOGRAPHIC COVERAGE STATEWIDE.
WITHIN SANDOVAL COUNTY 99.19 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION THAT LIVES WITHIN SANDOVAL COUNTY WILL BE COVERED WITHIN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS BASED ON THE 2020 CENSUS DATA.
BASED ON POPULATION THAT IS THE DENSITY OF THE COVERAGE GOING WITHIN THE COUNTY.
HAVE A LOT OF AREAS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS THERE ARE PARTS OF SANDOVAL COUNTY AND OTHER COUNTIES AS WELL AND WORKING TOWARDS THAT. WITH THE SYSTEM ITSELF IS BENEFICIAL AND WELL ADOPTED AND HAS PROVEN ITSELF AND TIME AGAIN WITH RECENT INCIDENTS LIKE THE STATE FAIR SEVERAL UNPLANNED INCIDENTS AND OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT TASK FORCE HAVE ALL BENEFITED FROM THE COMMUNICATION WE ARE ON SCHEDULE FOR DEPLOYMENT WE JUST HAD WITH THE QUESTIONING THE ADDITIONAL $26 MILLION TO CONTINUE THE GROWTH OF THE SYSTEM AND LOOK IN THE FUNDING MOVING FORWARD JUST OUTSIDE OF CAPITAL APPROPRIATIONS. I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE AT IT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE WE ARE PROUD AND HAPPY TO HAVE SANDOVAL COUNTY AS WELL AS THE CITY IS A PARTNER WERE LOOKING FORWARD
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TO WORKING WITH YOU GUYS TO IMPROVE THE SYSTEM HERE.>> YOU MENTIONED 81 PERCENT COVERAGE IN SANDOVAL COUNTY BUT I DIDN'T QUITE CATCH HOW MANY ANY ADDITIONAL SITES? YOU SAID 34 ONLINE BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT'S NOT 34 RADIOS? CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT QUICK.
>> CHAIRMAN YES THOSE ARE TOWER SITES ONLINE AND THOSE ARE NOT IN SANDOVAL COUNTY.
I CAN GET YOU THE NUMBER FOR THE COUNTY WE THINK IT'S AROUND SEVEN. BUT THAT IS STATEWIDE WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL'S SITES IN DEPLOYMENT BENEFITING SANDOVAL COUNTY AS WELL AS SANTA FE COUNTY AND THE SYSTEM.
BUT THAT IS STATEWIDE 34 TOWER SITES STATEWIDE.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: WHEN YOU SAID THERE IS 81 PERCENT COVERAGE AT A POINT TO GET TO 81 PERCENT COVERAGE, HOW MANY TOWERS IS THAT?
>> IT IS A COMPOSITE OF ALL OF THE TOWERS AVAILABLE EVEN OUTSIDE SANDOVAL COUNTY I CAN GET YOU THAT NUMBER IN A FEW MINUTES. MAY BE 12 OR 13.
MAYBE 15. IT IS SEVERAL BECAUSE THERE ARE SITES OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY.
THAT'S PART OF THE BENEFIT OF THE SYSTEM THAT THE SITES ARE NOT DESIGNATED JUST FOR CERTAIN USERS.
EVERYBODY CAN SHARE ALL OF THE COVERAGE AND INTEROPERABILITY.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: THE WHOLE CONCEPT STATEWIDE EVERYBODY CAN COMMUNICATE.
>> CORRECT. EVERYBODY SHARES COVERAGE AND SERVICES.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: THE WHOLE PROCESS IS MOVING TOWARD THE 700 MEGAHERTZ QUICK.
>> THAT'S CORRECT IT'S BASED ON 70800 MEGAHERTZ FOR
THE WHOLE SYSTEM. >> CHAIRMAN HEIL: .
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> SO REAL QUICK YOU SAID THAT THE COVERAGE FOR THE POPULATION OF SANDOVAL COUNTY WAS 99.1 PERCENT? DOES THAT AFFECT THE READINGS AT ALL? WHERE THE RATES?
>> THE COMPONENT COMMUNICATION AS A COMPONENT OF THE ISO REVIEW BUT THEY DON'T LOOK AT IT LIKE THAT JUST IF YOU DO HAVE IT HOW MANY TOWERS ARE IN SANDOVAL COUNTY?
>> I BELIEVE IT IS SEVEN THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL ONES.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE THE SYSTEM IS I WON'T SAY AGILE BUT ROBUST. IS THAT FAIR?
>> WHAT TYPE OF SUSTAINMENT FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE? IS THAT STATE OR COUNTY OR MUNICIPALITY FUNCTION? OR DO YOU GET FEDERAL DOLLARS TO DO THAT?
>> MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONER ALL INFRASTRUCTURES HANDLED BY THE STATES ALL TOWER SITES ARE HANDLED BY THE STATE WITHOUT GETTING INTO A GREAT AMOUNT OF DETAIL.
LEACH SITE IF OPERATING GETS PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR. USUALLY TWICE A YEAR.
THE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE IS VERY ROBUST AND FLEXIBLE AND EXTREMELY TOLERANT AND CAN TOLERATE NUMEROUS FAILURES.
>> J. BLOCK: I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT REDUNDANCY.
THAT IS BUILT INTO THE SYSTEM BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE TOWERS LOST WE STILL HAVE THE COMMAND-AND-CONTROL?
ANYTIME A TOWER GOES DOWN THERE IS AN IMPACT TO COVERAGE BUT THE GENERAL IDEA THERE ARE SO MANY TOWERS IN THE METRO AREA OFTEN TIMES WHEN IT YOU CAN GO DOWN WITHOUT THE SUBSCRIBER BASE FOR THE END USER EVEN NOTICING.
BUT THAT IS A CORRECT STATEMENT.
>> J. BLOCK: SO FOR CONTINGENCY OPERATIONS OF TWO OR THREE TOWERS GO DOWN WHETHER NATURAL OR AN ATTACK BECAUSE THAT COULD HAPPEN AS WELL AROUND THE COUNTRY, OR THE STATE OWNED OR PRIVATE INDUSTRY USES THE TOWERS AND HOW DO YOU AUGMENT WHEN THE TOWERS GO DOWN? CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT AGAIN?
THERE ARE MANY TOWERS LOW STAR STATE OWNED MANY ARE OWNED BY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH.
EVERY TIME WE HAVE A TOWER GO DOWN WE WILL EVALUATE TO THE IMPACT TO DETERMINE THE CAUSE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
IF IT WILL TAKE THE TOWER SITE TO GET BACK ON.
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THERE ARE REPORTABLE ON TRAILERS WITH A FEW DAYS NOTICE.YOU SEND WILL PROBABLY NEVER GET TO 100 PERCENT COVERAGE.
BLOCK: WHAT YOU LOOKING AT FOR NEXT GENERATION
TECHNOLOGIES? >> WE KNOW WE NEED RELEVANT AND CONTEMPORARY IT JUST CANNOT BE A RADIO SYSTEM OR TRADITIONAL RADIO WHERE YOU TALK TO A RADIO TOWER. THAT'S WHY WE ARE INTEGRATING WI-FI AND CELLULAR AND LTE TECHNOLOGIES WITHIN THE SYSTEM PERK WE HAVE EXCITING ADDITIONS TO ENABLE SUBSCRIBERS TO USE THINGS LIKE SMART PHONES OR IPADS TO TALK AND LISTEN ON RADIO CHANNELS.
WE FIND OFTEN STAFF MAY NOT WANT TO CARRY A BIG RADIO AROUND IF THEY HAVE THEIR CELL PHONE AND SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THEY NEED TO BECOME INVOLVED THEY CAN DO THAT.
ALSO USING TECHNOLOGIES SUCH AS WI-FI TO EXTEND COVERAGE WITHIN BUILDINGS WHERE IT MAY NOT BE FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE TO USE A STANDARD AMPLIFICATION SYSTEM FOR A BUILDING OF THIS SIZE WOULD COST $1 MILLION.
BUT THESE GOVERNMENTAL ALREADY HAVE WI-FI SET UP SO THE ABILITY TO HAVE RADIOS IN THE SYSTEM TO OPERATE SEAMLESSLY EXTENDS THE COVERAGE FOR A LOW-COST POINT.
WE ARE LOOKING AT TECHNOLOGIES LIKE THAT.
>> J. BLOCK: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
MUNICIPAL COUNTY, STATE, FEDERAL, DIFFEREN T ORGANIZATIONS.
YOU'RE TELLING ME ALL THOSE ORGANIZATIONS WILL BE ON ONE SYSTEM AND BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER?
CURRENTLY THEY ARE MANY FEDERAL AGENCIES BESIDES ALL LOCAL PARTNERS SUCH AS SANDOVAL COUNTY AND CITY OF RIO RANCHO THE POLICE AND COUNTY AND US MARSHALS, FBI, DEA IS COMING ON BOARD I.C.E., CBP, ALL AGENCIES CAN TALK TO EACH OTHER ON A SINGLE PLATFORM AND OFTEN DO.
QUESTIONS? >> THE QUESTION WAS WE HAVE 99.1 PERCENT COVERAGE IN THAT IS NOT THE GEOGRAPHIC COVERAGE THAT BASED ON POPULATION.
>> I GET THAT BUT THE LIMITATIONS YOU ARE AT IS THAT BECAUSE
OF GEOGRAPHY? >> IT IS A MIXTURE OF GEOGRAPHY, TERRAIN AND RADIO SITES. WE REALIZE WE NEED TO BUILD OUT ADDITIONAL RADIO SITES TO COVER THOSE AREAS.
BUT YES. THAT IS THE CURRENT LIMITATION.
>> ROLLING HILLS WITH AREAS OF THE LOW AREAS OF THEIR
COVERAGE THERE? >> I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT ANSWER BUT WE ARE WORKING TO IDENTIFY AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN HAVE A PRESENTATION.
I WILL FLY TO THIS IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS LONG BUT MANY PEOPLE HAVE SEEN IT IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION JUST JOTTED DOWN AND WE WILL ABSOLUTELY COME BACK TO IT.
BUT TO PIGGYBACK OFF WHAT MIKE WAS TALKING ABOUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE OVERALL SYSTEM IN SANDOVAL COUNTY BECAUSE AS HE ALLUDED TO COME IN NOT THE INTEL WORK -- -- ENTIRE COUNTY IS NOT ON THE SYSTEM SO WHAT ELSE ARE WE PROVIDING COMMUNICATIONS? I WILL FLY THROUGH A LOT OF THE SLIDES LIKE AS IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS PLEASE LET ME KNOW BUT WE TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT NETWORKS, RADIO SYSTEM SIMULCAST ET CETERA.
PLEASE JUST LET ME KNOW WITH WHAT QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
QUICKLY WANT TO REWIND AND GO BACK TO THE 19 SEVENTIES A RADIO COMMUNICATION WAS IN ITS INFANCY.
WAS SEVERAL MINUTES MUNICIPALITIES THE COUNTY WAS PROVIDING EMERGENCY RADIO COVERAGE VIA A DIFFERENT TOWERS AND LEASE AGREEMENTS WITH OTHER ENTITIES WITH PARTNER AGENCIES AND PRIVATE CITIZENS LIKE UP BEEN COSTA MESA ALSO DURING THAT
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TIME WE HAVE ADDED OTHER TOWERS TO MAKE SURE WE IMPROVE COVERAGE FOR THE IS CITIZENS AND VISITORS TO SANDOVAL COUNTY.IN 2000 YOU MAY REMEMBER WE HAD TO GO TO A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT OF A NARROWBAND IT ALLOWED FOR CHANNELS TO BE OPENED UP FOR OTHER PROJECTS.
HOWEVER IT HAS SERIOUSLY REDUCED OUR COVERAGE BY A LONG SHOT. WE HAD TO START LOOKING AT IT ADDING ADDITIONAL TOWERS TO HELP BRIDGE THE GAP. THE COUNTY INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY IN THE 2000 JUST TO TRY TO IMPROVE THE OVERALL COVERAGE AREA.
WITH EACH OF THOSE SITES IT WAS A MULTI- CAST SYSTEM.
ANYONE IN THE ROOM I REMEMBER BUT IT WAS LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRE ANYTIME YOU WERE IN THE COUNTY YOU HAD TO SWITCH TO THE TOWER CLOSEST YOU TO COMMUNICATE.
DRIVING FROM HERE TO CUBA YOU WOULD HAVE TO SWITCH TOWERS TWO OR THREE TIMES TO CONTINUE COVERAGE.
ALTHOUGH COVERAGE WAS OKAY YOU HAD TO REMEMBER TO SWITCH CHANNELS. LAW ENFORCEMENT DOING PURSUIT ON 550 DOING 100 MILES PER HOUR WAS THE MOST EFFICIENT BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAD PRIOR TO 2015. WE UPGRADED AND WENT TO A SIMULCAST SYSTEM BASICALLY AN INTERNET -BASED SYSTEM THINK OF THE VOICE OVER INTERNET INTERNET PROTOCOL PHONES WE TRY TO DO TOWERS IN THE SOUTHERN PART CREATING SIMULCAST SYSTEM THEY NO LONGER HAD TO SWITCH BETWEEN TOWERS IS ALWAYS THEY WERE ON THE ONE TOWERS THEY WOULD COMMUNICATE THEY WOULD KNOW WHICH WAS CLOSEST AND BROADCAST BUT IT WAS VERY SPECIFIC TO SANDOVAL COUNTY AND LOCAL AREA NOT ALLOW WERE -- -- ALLOW FOR INTEROPERABILITY WITH AGENCIES OUTSIDE OF SANDOVAL COUNTY.
I WOULD SPECIFY WE COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY BECAUSE AT THE TIME EVEN TODAY WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS LIKE THE NORTHWEST PORTIONS OF THE COUNTY HAVING SOME INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS THAT PROHIBITED IT FROM GOING ONTO THE SIMULCAST SYSTEM.
THESE ARE MULTICAST SITES BUT THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PAGES OVER MULTICAST
SYSTEMS. >> CHAIRMAN HEIL: ARE THOSE ALL TOWERS?
>> YES EVERY SINGLE ONE IS A TOWER AND A TOUR -- -- THE TOWER SUPPORTS X NUMBER OF CHANNELS BASED ON THE RESOURCES NEEDED IN THE AREA.
YOU CAN IMAGINE BUT ONCE YOU GOD UP NORTH YOU HAD SANDOVAL COUNTY FIRE AND AS THE WITH ONLY TWO CHANNELS.
EVERYONE IS AN ACTUAL TOWER SITE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BUT WE WILL LINK SIMULCAST LINKING TOWERS TOGETHER VIA INTERNET TO HELP REDUCE THE IMPACT OF THE USER TO COMMUNICATE MORE EFFECTIVELY OVER A GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION AFTER SWITCHING.
WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT SITES OR SYSTEMS SUPPORTING THE SANDOVAL COUNTY COMMUNICATIONS ENTITIES.
AS MIKE JUST TALKED ABOUT WE HAVE THE DTR S HOW THAT IMPACTS SANDOVAL COUNTY. THE NETWORK NOT ONLY PROVIDES CONNECTIVITY FOR THE RADIO SYSTEM BUT ALSO INTERNET SERVICES TO SOME FIRE STATIONS STATION 43 STATION 21 EVEN THE FAIRGROUNDS USES THE MICROWAVE SYSTEM WE HAVE TODAY.
WE HAVE THE VHF LEGACY WHICH WE JUST TALKED ABOUT AND THEN WE HAVE THE VHS SIMULCAST WHICH WE JUST TALKED ABOUT AS WELL SO EVEN THOUGH WERE MOVING TOWARD A STATE SYSTEM FOR THE
VARIOUS REASONS. >> SO THE NETWORK OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO HAVE THE INTERNET WE ARE SUPPORTING THAT INTERNET NOT ONLY THOSE FREQUENCIES WE SUPPORT BUT FOR INTERNET AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS COUNTY GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS WE ARE SUPPORTING THE DTRS SYSTEM BUT THE LEGACY FROM VHS WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY ON SIMULCAST WITH THE
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NORTHWEST PORTIONS OF THE COUNTY TO THE EXTENT THEY ARE STILL SWITCHING AND NEVER UPGRADING BECAUSE AS WE PREPARED THE UPGRADED 2018 DTRS CAME TO THE TABLE WE DECIDED TO PURSUE INSTEAD USING A TRUE MULTICAST SYSTEM THE VHS SIMULCAST IS THE BACKUP SYSTEM FOR SOME REASON IF WE HAVE A CATASTROPHIC FAILURE WITH THE DTRS WE STILL HAVE A BACKUP SYSTEM LIKE WE SAID EARLIER THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL THAT THEY WORK OFF THE VHS SYSTEM.WE ARE GETTING THERE WE STILL HAVE LEGACY SITES UP AND OPERATIONAL TO MAINTAIN ON A REGULAR BASIS BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE A SIMULCAST IN THESE AREAS JUST YET.
WE HAVE SOME CONNECTIVITY WE ARE WORKING TO UPGRADE THOSE AREAS BUT RIGHT NOW OUR DEPARTMENT IN THE RURAL AREAS RELIES ON A TRUE MULTICAST SYSTEM.
I ALWAYS LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THE KEY TO ALL OF THIS COUNTYWIDE. IT SITS ON LAND BUT IT IS AS A HALF FOR THEIR MICRO -- -- MICROWAVE OR RADIOFREQUENCY ALL OF THOSE LEGACY SITES IN THE RURAL AREAS ARE TRIGGERED THAT THE TOWER CONVERTS UP MESSAGE OUT TO THOSE MULTICAST SITES BECAUSE THEY CAN SEE THEM ALL BASICALLY AT T12.
THAT IS USED BY OTHER ENTITIES.
PUBLIC WORKS HAS INFRASTRUCTURE, EVEN THE NAVAJO NATION. AGAIN THIS IS 2015 THIS IS THE BACKUP SYSTEM IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY THE DIFFERENT TOWERS THAT EXIST THAT WERE INSTALLED BY SANDOVAL COUNTY FOR THE SIMULCAST CELL BASICALLY A LOT OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE THE REST WAS COUNTY COMMISSION APPROVED TO BE MOVE FORWARD THE INTENT WAS TO EXTEND THE SIMULCAST SYSTEM INTO OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY BUT WHEN WE WERE ALERTED THE STATE HAD THE SYSTEM MUCH MORE INTEROPERABLE AND COST-EFFICIENT LONG-TERM WE DECIDED TO HOLD OFF ON THE EXPANSION OF THE CURRENT COUNTY SYSTEM AND INSTEAD PARTNER WITH THE STATE.
ANGEL TOWER SERVES AS THE MAIN SITE FOR THE CELLS DOWN HERE ALONG WITH THE DISPATCH CENTER.
NOT ONLY A PRIME LOCATION BUT SERVES A LOT OF THE VHF CHANNELS. IF WE HAVE AGENCIES THAT HAVE NOT MOVED OVER TO THE STATE SYSTEM STILL ON VHF THEY ARE ALL AVAILABLE TO US WE CAN HAVE COMPLETE DEPLOYMENT THIS PAST SUMMER WHEN WE HAD THE RAGING RIVER WE USED MULTIPLE TIMES WEEKEND FOR RIVER RESCUES.
WITH THE NEW SYSTEM. WITH THE REDUNDANCY AND BACKUP THOSE CHANNELS WERE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT AND FOR SANDOVAL COUNTY.
SO ANY SORT OF GRANT FUNDING MOVING FORWARD COMING TO COMMUNICATION ASKS ARE YOU COMPLIANT WE WILL BE P 25 COMPLIANT. IT HAS THE ABILITY TO HAVE A LOT OF PARTNERS ONLINE WE CAN TALK TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES.
I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO MUCH INTO THE DETAILS OF TRUNKING BUT WHAT I THINK OF IS TAKING A BUNCH OF NETWORKS AND PAIRING THEM TOGETHER TO HAVE MASS COVERAGE FOR YOUR END-USER RADIO SYSTEM.
LET'S TAKE A BUNCH OF NETWORKS NO MATTER WHAT THEY ARE AS A COMMUNICATION SYSTEM WAS TIE THEM TOGETHER SO THE END USER HAS THE BEST POSSIBLE COVERAGE POSSIBLE.
THE OTHER THING TO TALK ABOUT IS TO BE SCALED AND INCREASED
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THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AS 12 DIFFERENT CHANNELS WITH 48 REPEATERS ON THE STATE SYSTEM.IF YOU GO DOWN TO BULLETS IF THEY WANTED THAT EXACT AMOUNT OF CHANNELS THEY WOULD NEED 1200 CONVENTIONAL OLD-SCHOOL REPEATERS. BY GOING INTO THE SYSTEM IT REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND COST OVERALL WHILE PROVIDING AN INCREASED SERVICE. THERE ARE TWO WAYS TO THINK OF A TRUE TRUNKING SYSTEM.
ONE IS THE BANK ANALOGY ONLY ONE TELLER DOES WITHDRAW OR DEPOSITS BUT THERE ARE FIVE TELLERS FRIDAY AFTERNOON EVERYONE HAS TO STAND IN ONE LINE BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THEY DO. THAT IS TRUE OLD CONVENTIONAL SYSTEM WHERE IF YOU HAVE ALL OF THE BANK TELLERS WHO ARE TRAINED TO DO EVERYTHING, THEN THE NEXT AVAILABLE BANK TELLER CAN TAKE THE NEXT AVAILABLE CALL FOR SERVICE BASICALLY.
THE OTHER WAY TO THINK ABOUT THIS IS THE CELL PHONE NETWORK THERE'S NO WAY EVERY CELL PHONE TOWER IN THIS AREA HAS A LINE DEDICATED TO YOUR CELL PHONE.
NO WAY THAT IS POSSIBLE TO DO.
THEY TAKE ALL THESE DIFFERENT CHANNELS ONE IS RESERVED.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
IN THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND TO MAKE SURE THE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO ALLOW FOR THOSE VACANCY CHANNELS TO HAVE COMMUNICATIONS.
IT IS A TRUE TRUNK SYSTEM AND THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO COUNTYWIDE. ALREADY TALKING ABOUT THIS IS A GOLD STANDARD A FEDERAL SET OF STANDARDS IT IS REQUIRED FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY GRANT FUNDING.
IT REALLY IS THE BEST WAY FORWARD.
THE NEW STATE SYSTEM HAS A LOT OF FEATURES.
NOT TOO MUCH INTO THIS BUT ACCOUNTABILITY OVER THE AIR, PROGRAMMING, TALK ABOUT THE WI-FI COMPONENTS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO.
SWAT TEAMS PREFER TO HAVE COMMUNICATIONS ENCRYPTED.
SO BASICALLY TO TAKE A BUNCH OF NETWORKS AND TIE THAT TOGETHER WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONDER MOVING TOWARD ANY SORT OF SITUATION AND THEY CAN COMMUNICATE EFFECTIVELY.
INTEROPERABILITY. I CANNOT STRESS THAT ENOUGH.
INTEROPERABILITY. INTEROPERABILITY BASICALLY WE CAN GO ANYWHERE IN THE STATE TO COMMUNICATE WITH OTHER PARTNERS I WAS SOLD.
THE FIRST THING THEY TALK ABOUT IS COMMUNICATIONS.
AND TO IMPROVE THOSE CHALLENGES WE HAVE TO HAVE INTEROPERABILITY. THE POSSIBLE SHOOTING INCIDENT AT THE HIGH SCHOOL SEVERAL YEARS BACK EIGHT DIFFERENT LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ON THE SCENE ONLY A COUPLE COULD TALK TO EACH OTHER.
THAT'S DANGEROUS EVEN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS RUNNING TO THE BUILDING IF THEY CANNOT COMMUNICATE EFFECTIVELY.
THAT WILL HELP TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEMS AND THE CHALLENGES. 911 CENTERS CAN BACK EACH OTHER UP.
SANTA FE DISPATCH CENTER WENT DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE AND WE COULD COMMUNICATE TO THE FIELD UNITS IN SANTA FE TO HELP WITH THE CURRENT SITUATION BECAUSE OF THE REDUNDANCY BUILT INTO THE STATE SYSTEM.
IT WITH THE HOME DISTRICT IF I NEEDED TO BECAUSE TO MOVE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND THE STATE AND COMMUNICATE.
THEY CAN STILL COMMUNICATE TO MAKE THEM MORE EFFICIENT AND REDUNDANCY. THE COMMISSIONER TALKED ABOUT THIS WHAT I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING THERE ARE TWO BRAINS AND THEN THE BACKUP CORE WILL TAKE OVER IN ALBUQUERQUE.
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TWO CORES CAN OPERATE THE SYSTEM AT ANY GIVEN TIME.TO MAKE SURE THE SYSTEM IS READY TO GO AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
WITH THE DIGITAL FEATURES IT MAKES A WHOLE RADIO SYSTEM CLEANER COMMUNICATION IS CLEANER WITH THE LEGACY SYSTEM THIS WAS PRE- 2013 JUST SOME I'M SORRY 2023 THE AGENCIES THAT HAVE SIGNED ON THE LIST ON THE RIGHT WITH A BIG PUSH OF THE SUBSCRIBER FEE DISCUSSION WE HAD DURING THE LEGISLATION SESSION 20 PLUS MORE AGENCIES HAVE SIGNED ON.
WE ARE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE THROUGHOUT THE STATE TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISION BUT THE MORE PEOPLE THAT CAN GET ON THE SYSTEM THE MORE INTEROPERABILITY WE CAN HAVE WITH A MAJOR INCIDENT WE ALL WANT TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER.
DISPATCHES MORE OF A NETWORK SITE NOT NECESSARILY A RADIOFREQUENCY AND THAT IS NOT OURS UP IN THE CORRIDOR BUT THE STATE IS WORKING ON TO IMPROVE ON AND GET ONLINE THAT IS A STATE INITIATIVE THAT WILL HELP SANTA FE COUNTY AND OTHER AGENCIES IN THE AREA. THIS IS HARD TO SEE BUT BASICALLY APPEAR IN THE NORTH PAJARITO PEAK IS THE BIGGEST AND THEN DOWN HERE THE OTHER PART OF THE COUNTY.
WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH DIFFERENT AGENCIES TO IMPROVE COVERAGE ALONG THE CORD OR AND THE NORTHWEST PORTIONS OF THE COUNTY. AND EVEN WITH THE SITES TURN ON WE SAW PRETTY BIG HOLES ALTHOUGH I DO AGREE A LOT OF THE POPULATION IS COVERED WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF COVERAGE WITH THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY, THIS IS VERY WELL COVERED INCLUDING THE SITES THAT WE HAVE IN ALBUQUERQUE -- -- ALBUQUERQUE BUT THERE IS ROLLING HILLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT CAUSING ISSUES AND IT IS HARD TO SEE.
BUT THERE IS A HUGE BLANK SPOT RIGHT HERE AND IT IS HIGHWAY FOR. THERE IS NO BLUE ON THAT ANYWHERE THAT JUST BECAUSE HIGHWAY FOR SINCE IN A CANYON IT'S VERY HARD GEOGRAPHICALLY THAT WAS NOT MADE AVAILABLE TO US BUT NOW THEY CAN START WORKING ON AND IT WILL HELP IN THE AREA BUT WE STILL NEED ADDITIONAL TOWER SITES POTENTIALLY DOWN NEAR PUEBLO AND UP ABOVE TO HELP WITH THE COVERAGE AREAS.
THIS IS MOBILE COVERAGE PORTABLE COVERAGE LITTLE BIT LESS BUT IT GIVES A DECENT OVERVIEW.
MAYBE WE WOULD SEE AN IMPROVEMENT BUT THIS IS THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY IN RIGHT NOW THERE IS NO BLUE WE DID SOME TESTING AND HAVE SOME COVERAGE UP THERE AND THE STATE IS LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH WILL HELP POTENTIALLY SHOOT BACK DOWN WE ALSO HAVE PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NAVAJO NATION THAT HAVE A SITE THAT COULD HELP COVER A LOT OF THIS.
THE EAST SIDE OF THE PECANS GREAT COVERAGE BUT THE WESTSIDE IS VIRTUALLY NOTHING TO ME TO DOZENS OF RESCUES THERE EVERY YEAR THERE IS NO PERMANENT LIVING POPULATION BUT SOMETHING WE NEED COVERAGE FOR THE SAME WITH THE CORRIDOR ALL THE SEARCH AND RESCUES THAT WE DO. THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN THE RADIO FREQUENCIES BUT WHAT ACTUALLY HAVE THE NETWORK OR INTERNET SYSTEM.
IF YOU WANT SPECIFICS WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS LATER BUT THIS SHOWS HOW THE SYSTEM SHOOTS THE SIGNAL TO EACH OTHER.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS SAYS.
BUT MIKE AND RYAN CAN DEFINITELY TALK ABOUT IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION. THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT SITES AND FREQUENCIES IF YOU WILL? AND THE TOP GROUPS THAT COME OFF OF EACH SITE IF YOU WANT
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MORE INFORMATION WRITE IT DOWN WE WILL DIG INTO THAT A LITTLE MORE.THIS IS INTERESTING THE SLIDE I WAS GIVEN EARLIER PRIOR TO THE NEW STATEWIDE SYSTEM RIO RANCHO FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD TO CHANNELS. NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO.
BUT THE NEW SYSTEM HAS BEEN ALLOCATED TOTAL, 10 DIFFERENT CHANNELS OR TOP GROUPS THEY CAN USE.
IN ADDITION THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES TO UTILIZE CHANNELS WITH A MAJOR EVENT WITH OTHERS INTEROPERABILITY AND USING THE SAME CHANNEL TOGETHER THAT THE OLD SYSTEM THE VH SYSTEM WAS A HIGH-FREQUENCY THERE WAS STILL SOME ULTRAHIGH FREQUENCY USED BY ALBUQUERQUE AMBULANCE BILL HAVE A UHF RADIO.
TO COMMUNICATE AND WHAT WE ARE MOVING TOWARDS IS A 700 MEGAHERTZ SYSTEM.
AGAIN, IF YOU WANT SPECIFIC DETAILS, WRITE DOWN A QUESTION I WILL HAVE IT EXPLAINED BY SOMEONE SMARTER THAN ME HOW THE RADIO BEGINS WORK AND WHERE THEY COME FROM.
BASICALLY THEY CANNOT TALK TO EACH OTHER UNLESS THERE IS A PATCH BUT WE ARE IN THE 700 RANGE RIGHT HERE AND THE STATE SUPPORT SEE HUNDRED RANGE AS WELL.
THIS IS OLD STUFF FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
I TALKED ABOUT THIS HOW THE ALERTING WORKS IN SANDOVAL COUNTY WE WILL STILL MAINTAIN THE VHS SYSTEM FOR NOW UNTIL WE CAN FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION FOR THE PAGING OF THE DIFFERENT FIRE STATIONS AND VOLUNTEERS WE CONTINUE TO HAVE SEVERAL TACTICAL REPEATERS THIS IS ON VHF TACTICAL UNITS.
THERE ARE 20 DIFFERENT LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN SANDOVAL COUNTY.
20 OF THEM AND WE TRY TO SUPPORT EACH AND EVERYONE TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.
IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THAT SYSTEM WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE INTERNET WHETHER MICROWAVE OR FIBER HAVE TO CONNECT ALL TOWERS TOGETHER FOR EFFICIENCY.
WE HAVE TO HAVE RADIOFREQUENCY EQUIPMENT AND AT THE DISPATCH CENTER. WE HAVE TO HAVE SHELTERS AT EACH SITE.
DIFFERENT SPACE INTERNALLY TO RUN ALL THE WIRES.
LOTS OF REDUNDANT POWER THE MAIN GENERATOR POWER.
WANT TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD TO SUPPORT ALL OF THESE NEEDS. IN 2018 WE PASSED A BOND THAT YOU REMEMBER IT WAS SUPPOSED TO EXTEND THROUGH THE 2015 SIMULCAST NETWORK.
AT THAT TIME WE CHOSE TO EDIT WHAT WE INITIALLY IDENTIFIED THE FUNDS FOR AND INSTEAD MOVE TOWARD TO TIE INTO THE STATE SYSTEM. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE DID WITH HIS DISPATCH CONSOLES, 12 OF THEM.
THEY WERE END-OF-LIFE AND THE RISK THEY WOULD FAIL AT ANY MINUTE. BUT WE NEEDED NEW DISPATCH CONSOLES TO TIE INTO THE STATE SYSTEM. THAT WAS A FIRST PURCHASE WE MADE AFTER WE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD. THOSE ARE INSTALLED AND WORKING AND HAVE BEEN ONLINE FOR SOME TIME.
WE HAD TO DO A LOT OF PREP WORK TO START MOVING TO THE NEW SYSTEM. 2019, 2020.
WE WENT FOR LEGISLATIVE FUNDS.
THAT SHOULD BE 2020 LEGISLATIVE FUNDS.
I APOLOGIZE RIGHT BEFORE COVID.
WE GOT THOSE FUNDS BASICALLY LATE FALL OF 2020 TO BUY ADDITIONAL RADIOS FOR THE SYSTEM.
WE HAD TO DO BATTERY BACKUP PURCHASES AS ALL UPS WERE NEARING END-OF-LIFE WHICH IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT OF A POWER SURGE OR OUTAGE SO THE UPS KICKS ON.
WE HAVE GTR REPLACEMENTS SUPPORTING THE LEGACY SYSTEM
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BECAUSE WE SUPPORT TO THE MULTICAST SYSTEM IN THE RURAL PARTS OF THE COUNTY, THE BASE STATION RADIOS THE MAINTENANCE AND UPGRADES. WE DID THAT.EACH NETWORK OR EACH SITE RUNS ON INTERNET AND HAS TWO ROUTERS AT EVERY SITE SPECIFICALLY FOR REDUNDANCY.
ONE CRASHES THE OTHER PICKS UP.
IT WAS IDENTIFY THEIR WERE ROUTER ISSUES WE HAVE REPLACED THOSE. AS WE SPEAK SYSTEM CONFIGURATION CARDS I BELIEVE ARRIVE TOMORROW AND WE TALK ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE.
WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
IT IS ONLINE IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY AND A LOT OF AGENCIES ARE USING IT.
AND THEN SOME OTHER COUNTIES SOURCES THAT WE AGREED TO COVER THE FIRST FEW YEARS.
AND THEN $20 PER RADIO PER MONTH THE GOVERNOR SIGNED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER TO WAIVE THEM FOR ONE YEAR WE STILL LOOK FORWARD TO PURSUING A LEGISLATIVE BILL TO HOPEFULLY TAKE CARE OF THOSE ENTITIES STATEWIDE IN THE NEXT SESSION.
WITH THE UNFUNDED COMMUNICATIONS.
IT'S NOT REALLY ON THE IC IP RIGHT NOW.
I'M NOT READY TO MOVE ON THIS.
WE NEED STUFF IN THE CORRIDOR OF THE NORTHWEST AREA OF THE COUNTY. WE KNOW WE NEED THIS STUFF BUT WE ARE NOT IN A POSITION TO MOVE FORWARD WE NEED TO IDENTIFY THE SITES AND TO DECIDE HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. THIS IS ASSUMING 44 MILLION NO ONE WANTS TO PARTNER WITH US.
I THINK WE CAN PARTNER WITH OTHER AGENCIES TO REDUCE THE COST TO MAKE IT EFFICIENT FOR EVERYONE.
TALK ABOUT SUBSCRIBER FEES GETTING INTO RADIO DISTRIBUTION AND 2020 I ASKED ALL THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES WHAT YOU NEED FROM RADIOS? AND HOW CAN WE HELP SUPPORT THAT? HERE'S THE RADIO DISTRIBUTION FROM THIS FAR FROM FRIDAY.
AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE ARE A LOT OF AGENCIES THAT HAVE RECEIVED RADIOS.
RIO RANCHO FIRE AND THE AGENCIES THAT PUT IN REQUEST WITH THE ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS WHAT HAS BEEN ALLOCATED.
THAT HAS BEEN MODIFIED OVER THE YEARS AS PEOPLE CHANGE POSITIONS SOME OF THOSE HAVE BEEN EDITED BUT I WANT TO SHOW THE ORIGINAL REQUEST SO WE HAVE ACTUALLY INCREASED.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: WHAT ABOUT THE RADIOS PURCHASED?
>> WE DID THE FIRST GEO BOND - - GO BOND AND THEN WE STARTED TO MAKE RADIO PURCHASES IN THE FALL 2020 AND PURCHASING OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS AS MONEY BECOMES AVAILABLE TO US AWARDED TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
I KNOW QUESTIONS WILL COME UP RADIOS WERE NOT DISTRIBUTED IMMEDIATELY THE SYSTEM WAS NOT ON SO IF WE GAVE THOSE RADIOS OUT BUT THE SYSTEM IS NOT ON WITHOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THAT WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO REPURPOSE ALL RADIOS BACK TO PROGRAM FOR THE STATE SYSTEM.
SO AS RADIOS WERE COMING IN WE WERE WORKING ON THE TOP GROUPS IN THE CHANNELS AND THE PROGRAMMING TO MOVE FORWARD BEFORE THE SYSTEM EVER TURNED ON.
>> IS THIS A PRIORITY ORDER OR DID WE DO THAT?
>> WHAT WE NOTICED RIGHT AWAY WAS WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE DONE CERTAIN AREAS NEEDED THE INTEROPERABILITY SOONER THAN OTHERS SO SOME OF THE FIRST RADIOS DISTRIBUTOR IT WERE THE RIO RANCHO SWAT TEAM AND THOSE WHO HAD ALREADY TRANSITION
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THEY NEEDED THOSE RADIOS FOR INTEROPERABILITY.THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY IS MORE DENSELY COVERED SO RADIOS OF STARTED MOVING OUT TO THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY AREAS THAT HAVE VERY LITTLE COVERAGE.
>> IS THERE A PLACE WRITTEN DOWN?
>> NOT NECESSARILY POLICY OR PROCESS JUST AND FREQUENT COMMUNICATION WITH THEM TO ADVISE THEM WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE ARE GOING AND WHAT THE CHALLENGES OUR.
WE ARE AT 1250 RADIOS PURCHASED WITH A TOTAL REQUEST OF 1420.
WE HAVE DISTRIBUTED 800 RADIOS WE HAVE 600 STILL WAITING TO BE DISTRIBUTED. AND THE OTHER ISSUE WE HAD EVERY INTENTION HAVING NOBLES INSTALLED IN ALL VEHICLES AND THEN WE HAD MAJOR ISSUES WITH BATTERY POWER AND THE PROJECTS OF CHANGE ORDERS WE ALSO IDENTIFY THERE ARE ISSUES HOW THE RADIOS WOULD BE FITTING INTO CARS AND DIFFERENT VEHICLES SO WE HAD MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO THOSE.
SO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS YOU WILL HAVE CHALLENGES AND HICCUPS ALONG THE WAY WE HAVE REACTED BUT WE DID NOT WANT TO START DEPLOYING ALL THE RADIOS.
AND IF THE SYSTEM HAS AN ISSUE I DIDN'T WANT THAT EITHER IT'S BETTER TO KEEP THEM ON THE VHS SYSTEM THAT THE NEW ONLINE AND ROBUST AND READY TO GO BEFORE WE STARTED MOVING FORWARD. IN ADDITION, I DON'T KNOW WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT.
BUT WE HAD TO DO ALL THE TESTING TO MAKE SURE THE SYSTEM WAS READY TO GO IF I HANDED EVERYONE THERE RADIO THAT WE WOULD HAVE THIS MEETING BECAUSE I DIDN'T TEST THE SYSTEM FIRST.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: 640 RADIOS ON HAND TO BE ALLOCATED
QUICK. >> WE HAVE ORDER STILL COMING IN MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONER BLOCK. I WILL SAY IT HERE OUT LOUD BY APRIL 1ST ALL OF THOSE RED NUMBERS WILL BE ZEROS.
>> OR WHAT? MIMIC OR YOU CAN HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE.
AND I WILL HOLD SOMEONE ELSE ACCOUNTABLE.
THAT'S HOW IT ROLLS. [LAUGHTER] >> CHAIRMAN HEIL: WHAT IS THE WARRANTY IMPACT?
>> WE RAN INTO THAT ISSUE BECAUSE THEY WERE DELIVERED WE HAD NOT DEPLOYED THEM YET THEY WERE STARTING TO EXPIRE.
IT WAS UNFORTUNATE WE TRIED TO WORK WITH MOTOROLA TO EXTEND THE WARRANTIES. THERE WASN'T A GOOD SOLUTION.
WE HAVE TRIED SEVERAL TIMES TO WORK WITH DIFFERENT ENTITIES SEVERAL AGENCIES HAVE BROUGHT US RADIOS THAT HAVE MALFUNCTIONED SO WE HAVE SWAPPED THEM OUT I HAVE TAKEN IT UPON MYSELF TO SWAP IT OUT AND WE WILL DEAL WITH A PROBLEM WITH THE RADIO AND GET THE RETURN PER QUITE A KNOW HOW MAY TIMES WE HAVE DONE THAT BUT WE HAVE.
THAT IS MOVING FORWARD ESPECIALLY AS PEOPLE ON THE RADIOS THEY WILL START MAINTAIN BUT THE FIRST LITTLE BIT I TRY TO SUPPORT THEM.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: WITH THE SERVICE FEES AND CREDITS? AND WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING TO SEE FROM THE LEGISLATURE HOW DO THOSE SERVICE PETE -- -- SERVICE FEES AFFECT THE WARRANTY?
THE SUBSCRIBER FEES FOR THE CREDIT AND THE WARRANTY ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. SUBSCRIBER FEES WERE FOR THE STATE TO MAINTAIN THE DIFFERENT SITES THE WARRANTY WAS FOR THE INDIVIDUAL.
>> SO IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE FOUR OR MORE ACQUISITIONS OF
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: WHAT IS THE WARRANTY ON THE RADIOS?
>> ONE YEAR. >> CHAIRMAN HEIL: THOSE MOST RECENTLY PURCHASED ARE STILL UNDER WARRANTY? SO WHAT IS THE IMPACT?
>> IF THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THE RADIO WE WILL WORK WITH THEM AND HOPEFULLY TAKE CARE OF THE SITUATION BUT IT'S
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SOMETHING WE ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL AGENCY.>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: WHAT ABOUT THE RADIOS WE ARE TAKING
BACK? >> WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD PARTNERSHIP WITH MOTOROLA.
WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM TO GET THE SITUATION RESOLVED AT VERY LITTLE COST TO US.
AND THEN JUST TO TAKE THAT BACK INTO INVENTORY.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: YOU EVER RADIO BE FOR BEING PROGRAM?
>> I DON'T THINK WE WOULD GO THAT DETAILED BUT TO PLUG IT IN IF IT'S A PROGRAMMING ISSUE AT LEAST TO HELP IDENTIFY THE SITUATION AND DIAGNOSE IT BEFORE WE DECIDE WE NEED TO SEND
IT OFF. >> CHAIRMAN HEIL: WHAT IS THE ISSUE WITH REGARD TO THE AMOUNTS? I REALIZE YOU CANNOT ALWAYS SEE INTO THE FUTURE BUT IS THAT SOMETHING WE DID NOT ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS?
>> UNDERSTAND I TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT.
IN 2018 AND 2019 THERE HAS BEEN THREE DIFFERENT SALES REPS FOR MOTOROLA AND PROJECT MANAGERS IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
TRYING TO GO BACK TO OLD E-MAILS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE CHALLENGES WERE WE IDENTIFIED SOMETHING IN THE E-MAIL CHAIN I HAVE TWO MOTOROLA I SAID I NEED X NUMBER OF REMOTE MOUNT MOBILE RADIOS.
SO THE HEAD IS UPFRONT AND THE BRAIN IS IN THE BACK OF THE CAR WE GOT THE QUOTE AND THE CONTRACT IN THE AGREEMENT.
I QUICKLY LOOKED AT HIGH-VALUE WE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE LOOK AT IT EVERYONE MISSED THAT MOBILE WAS DASH.
IT WAS MISSED. I TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY SO WE WERE SENT A BUNCH OF DASH MOUNT VIDEOS THAT ARE BIGGER AND TAKE UP MORE SPACE.
WE CAN INSTALL SOME IN THE FIRE TRUCKS RIO RANCHO TOOK THEM ALL THEY HAVE MORE SPACE.
BUT THE POLICE CONSOLES AND THE POLICE UNITS ARE A LOT SMALLER WHICH IS WHY THEY NEED THE REMOTE MOUNT.
I TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT.
WHAT DID WE DO? WE IMMEDIATELY REACTED FIGURE OUT HOW MANY RADIOS.
HOW MUCH THAT WOULD COST AND CAME TO THE COMMISSION AND COUNTY MANAGER AND YOU AUTHORIZE MANY TO BE USED FOR COMMUNICATIONS I OWN AND TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY.
WE SPENT SOME MONEY AND PURCHASED A CONVERSION KIT TO MAKE ALL OF THOSE RADIOS INTO REMOTE MOUNT LIKE INITIALLY INTENDED. THAT HAS OCCURRED AWAY ARE GETTING READY TO START INSTALLS
AGAIN. >> CHAIRMAN HEIL: IS AS THE ISSUE OF THE 116 RADIOS NOT
ISSUED? >> YES SIR. IT IS PART OF THAT.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: WHAT IS THE OTHER PART?
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: 116 CARS QUICK.
>> ALSO 192 PORTABLES AND BASED ON THE COVERAGE THEY WILL WORK IN THE CAR JUST LIKE ANYONE ELSE.
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES UTILIZE THEIR PORTABLES EVEN IN THEIR CARS AND CAN COMMUNICATE VERY EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY. THEY HAVE COVERAGE.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: WHAT IS THE PLAN ON THE 113
RADIOS? >> BY APRIL 1ST THEY WILL BE INSTALLED IF NOT SOONER.
WE HAVE COMMITTED BE ABLE START WORKING WITH MOTOROLA TOMORROW. WE HAD BEEN WORKING WITH THEM THAT TOMORROW WE REENGAGE.
WE HAD ISSUES WITH UPS AND GTR AND ROUTERS OVER THE LAST THREE OR FOUR MINUTES THAT WAS CAUSING SOME INTERFERENCE AND ISSUES ON THE STATE SYSTEM ESPECIALLY AS IT IMPACTED SANDOVAL COUNTY IN THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES I DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE TO MAKE THESE INSTALLS KNOWING THE SYSTEM WAS HAVING ISSUES AND WE WILL HAVE SEVERAL E-MAILS WITH MOTOROLA SAYING THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THIS TOWER OR THAT TOWER IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE END-USER TO GIVE THEM THE RADIO IF THE SYSTEM WILL NOT WORK SO WE PAUSED TO ADDRESS THE OTHER CONCERNS THAT HAD COME TO LIGHT SO WE COULD GET THAT ADDRESS IN THE SYSTEM BACK ONLINE 100 PERCENT.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: BUT IF THOSE TOWERS WERE FUNCTIONAL
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BACK LAST YEAR BUT STILL HAVE RADIOS TO DISTRIBUTE SO YOU ARE SAYING THE TOWERS IT'S NOT THOSE IT IS THE AMOUNT.THE SYSTEM WENT ONLINE OCTOBER 2022.
YOU ARE RIGHT. WE NEEDED TO SPEND SEVERAL MONTHS TESTING THAT SYSTEM.
IN FACT THE CHIEF IN RIO RANCHO FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN FOR SEVERAL MONTHS TO IDENTIFY WHAT'S WORKING AND WHAT'S NOT WORKING AND THEN TO HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT OR FIRE PERSONNEL WE HAVE NOT TESTED THE SITUATION WE WOULD BE HERE AGAIN HAVING A CONVERSATION WHILE GIVING RADIOS WITHOUT TESTING. STARTING DEPLOYMENT LATE SPRING EARLY SUMMER THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED TO IDENTIFY THE MOUND ISSUES WHICH TOOK SEVERAL MONTHS TO GET THOSE CONVERSION KITS IN AND THEN WE HAVE THE OTHER ISSUES TO IDENTIFY WITH THE TOWERS IN THE ROUTERS.
WE HAD SOME HICCUPS WE ARE TRYING TO OVERCOME.
>> FOUR YEARS AGO HOW LONG DID YOU ANTICIPATE TO GET THE RADIOS OUT AND SERVICE?
>> I DID NOT EXPECT IT TO TAKE FOUR YEARS.
WE THOUGHT AT THE TIME ONE YEAR THROUGH 18 MONTHS TO HAVE IT ON AND RADIOS DONE MARCH 2020 COVID HIT AND DERAILED THE WORLD FOR THE NEXT 12 TO 18 MONTHS.
INCLUDING US OUR PRIORITY SHIFTED.
WE WENT TOWARD A RESPONSE TO COVID IN 2021.
WORK WAS BEING DONE BUT EVERYONE WAS REMOTE AND AT HOME WAS SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES FOR IMPACT OF THE PROJECT.
>> M. MEEK: DID YOU THINK TWO YEARS?
MEEK: IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE COVID WERE STILL BE ON THAT 18 MONTHS TIME PERIOD TO GET THE RADIOS OUT.
HOW FAR AWAY ARE WE FROM FINALIZING THE 18 MONTH SCHEDULE
I THINK IT WILL BE SOONER BUT WE WILL GET THIS DONE BY APRIL 1ST.
I DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THE OTHER PROBLEMS THAT WERE OCCURRING.
THOSE RED NUMBERS WILL BE ZERO IF NOT BEFORE.
CHANCES ARE THE 116 IN RIO, THOSE WILL BE A PRIORITY BECAUSE I KNOW THEY ARE 100 PERCENT ON THE SYSTEM.
SOME OTHER AGENCIES STILL USING A COMBINATION OF VHS AND STATE, WE WILL GET TO THEM BUT THERE WILL ALSO BE THAT DISCLAIMER THAT JUST BECAUSE THEY MAKE THIS NUMBER OF 26 RADIOS THERE WILL BE A DISCLAIMER THIS IS A STATE SYSTEM DOESN'T NECESSARILY WORK UP THERE YET.
>> M. MEEK: BUT THEN KNOWING THAT THAT IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL. HOWEVER IF WE KNOW THAT THESE DEPARTMENTS ARE NOT GOING TO UTILIZE IT, DOESN'T SEEM TO ME TO GET ONE DEPARTMENT UP AND RUNNING AND THEN THE NEXT ONE.
WE WORK WITH 20 DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND SANDOVAL COUNTY : THE RADIOS. I FEEL FOR THEM.
WE TOLD HIM RADIOS ARE COMING IN 2019.
THEY HAVEN'T PROCURED RADIOS ON THEIR OWN.
WHAT WE ARE JUST RIVETING OUR MULTI- BAND THEY WORK ON VHS AND A STATE SYSTEM. THE ADVANTAGES UNTIL WE GET COVERAGE IN THE AREA THEY CAN USE THE MULTICAST SYSTEM AND VHS.
COVERAGE OUT THERE THE RADIO WILL ALREADY BE PROGRAM TO SWITCH OVER TO THE STATE ONCE WE HAVE COVERAGE WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH.
WE HAVE RADIOS WE HAVE ISSUED IN THE RURAL PARTS OF THE COUNTY THAT DON'T HAVE THE STATE SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY ARE RADIOS ARE AT END-OF-LIFE AND THEY JUST NEEDED SOME RADIOS TO KEEP GOING ON A DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION.
1420 RADIOS THE 20 AGENCIES TO GET IT COORDINATED IS A PROJECT. I AGREE THERE PRIORITY NEEDS TO BE THE AREAS THAT HAVE
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COVERAGE RIGHT NOW AND THEN IMMEDIATE NEEDS AGENCIES MAY HAVE. I DON'T EVER WANT TO TELL SOMEONE IF THEY NEED A RADIOTOMORROW. >> M. MEEK: THAT BACKFILLING.
THAT MAKES SENSE. >> TRUST ME, COMMISSIONER I WANT THESE TO BE ZERO JULY 2023.
I HAVE E-MAILS TO MOTOROLA SAYING I'M BEYOND FRUSTRATED EVERY TIME I TURN AROUND THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE WITH THE SYSTEM PREVENTING THIS DEPLOYMENT.
IT IS BEYOND FRUSTRATING BUT WE ARE SO DEEP I JUST HAVE TO
KEEP PUSHING. >> M. MEEK: I BELIEVE YOU ARE DOING THE BEST YOU CAN.
I THINK THERE ARE TOO MANY OVERWHELMING THINGS COMING INTO PLAY AND PUTTING IT OUT ON THE FLOOR AND IT IS A DIFFICULT PROCESS THAT IS A LOFTY GOAL TO TRY TO DO BUT AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO GRAB THE REINS AND STOP IT AGAIN.
IN FOUR MONTHS. >> FIVE MONTHS.
>> J. JONES: THANK YOU MR. CHAIR I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS. I ASSUME THESE RADIOS HAVE BEEN SITTING FOR A WHILE. IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT?
>> YES THEY HAVE BEEN SITTING FOR SOME TIME.
>> I GUESS MY QUESTION TO GET TO THE POINT DO WE KNOW OF THOSE 160 UNITS ARE STILL OPERATIONAL? IT REMINDS ME OF A TIME WHEN I WAS IN THE AIR FORCE AND WE HAD RADIO SITTING FOR A WHILE SOME ARE JUST NOT OPERATIONALLY END UP HAVING TO SPEND MORE MONEY TO GET MORE UNITS SO OUT OF THE UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING ARE WE SURE THOSE ARE OPERATIONAL READY TO GO TODAY QUICK.
>> ABSOLUTELY I AGREE 100 PERCENT AND WE HAVE MOTOROLA BASICALLY INSPECT EVERY SINGLE RADIO BEFORE THEY INSTALL IT ME PAID FOR INSTALL FOR ALL THE RADIOS SO TO INSTALL IT AND MAKE IT OPERATIONAL IS A SOFTWARE UP TO DATE IS A RADIO FUNCTIONING, THE RIGHT ANTENNA ET CETERA THOSE ARE ALL TESTED AND LOOKED AT AS THEY INSTALL THEM AND IF THERE IS AN ISSUE IT WILL BE PULLED BACK AND WE WILL GET A REPLACEMENT THAT IS PART OF THE INSTALL PROCESS.
COMMISSIONER JONES I HEAR YOU AND WE ARE ON TOP OF IT.
>> A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION TO THE CHAIRMAN BUT I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY HANDHELD PERSONAL UNITS HAVE THE SAME RANGING CAPABILITY AS A VEHICLE MOBILE UNITS?
NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME RANGE BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THE SAME COVERAGE OF THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY WE HAVE MULTIPLE TOWERS OVERLAPPING TO PROVIDE VERY REDUNDANT COVERAGE IF WE WENT BACK ON THE MAP THE BLUE ON THE COUNTY IS DARK BLUE INDICATING A LOT OF COVERAGE SO THE HANDHELD RADIO IN THOSE AREAS WILL WORK JUST AS EFFICIENTLY AS A MOBILE RADIO GETTING OUT TO THE MORE RURAL AREAS THEY WILL BE MORE IMPACTFUL BECAUSE OF THEIR ABILITY TO EXTEND THAT RANGE.
>> J. JONES: BASED ON THAT WORD YOU SAY CURRENTLY THERE IS NOT AN ISSUE OR THERE IS AN ISSUE TO USE THE HANDHELD INSTEAD OF THE MOBILE UNITS?
>> IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY, COMMISSIONER JONES, I HAVE NOT HAD AN EGG -- -- A NEGATIVE IMPACT.
MY VEHICLE JUST GOT A MOBILE THE OTHER DAY I'VE BEEN USING THE HANDHELD FOR MONTHS HAVE HAD ZERO IMPACT OF THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY OUTSIDE OF LARGE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS SUCH AS THE CASINO WHICH WE ALREADY KNOW WE HAVE ISSUES WITH.
THE HANDHELDS HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF
JONES: THANK YOU. >> CHAIRMAN HEIL: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> J. BLOCK: CHIEF I APPRECIATE YOU FOR TAKING ACCOUNTABILITY. THAT'S WHAT LEADERS DO IS GREAT LEADERSHIP AND CHARACTER
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THERE. THAT BEING SAID, WHO WAS THE PROGRAM MANAGER LEAD FOR THE COUNTY FOR THE PROGRAM FOR THE RADIOS AND DEPLOYING THAT?BLOCK: LOOKING AT THIS AT 2019.
I KNOW THAT YOU CANNOT PREDICT COVID.
BUT WHEN ASKED ABOUT FOR YOUR RELEASE THERE WAS NOT A PRIORITY I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH COORDINATION AND HAPPENED BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES TO PUT SOME TYPE OF LIST TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT IF THIS HAPPENS WE WILL DO THIS AND FIGURE THIS OUT I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYTHING WRITTEN DOWN ON PAPER A DEPLOYMENT PLAN LOOKING AT 20 YEARS IN THE AIR FORCE TWO LOOK AT THINGS I JUST DON'T SEE A LOT OF PLANNING SEEING WERE GETTING THE RADIOS DONE AND SHOOTING THEM OUT AND IT SHOULD BE FINE LOOKING BACK THAT WASN'T THE CASE THERE IS SOME SUCCESS AND I APPRECIATE THAT BUT WHAT COULD YOU HAVE DONE BETTER IN YOUR OPINION? I KNOW YOUR THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
WHAT CAN YOU DO BETTER SO WHEN THIS HAPPENS AGAIN IN A FEW YEARS WHAT ARE THE LESSONS LEARNED?
>> I HAVE REFLECTED A LOT ON THIS.
I ECHO SAID FRUSTRATION AND I FEEL IT AND I FEEL RESPONSIBLE FOR IT WHEN I LOOK BACK THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WOULD HAPPEN FASTER THAN THEY TRULY DO AT THE TIME WE DID NOT EVEN HAVE A COMMUNICATIONS ADMINISTRATOR IN 2019 HE DID NOT COME ON UNTIL MID- 2020 INITIALLY TO HELP WITH COVID SUPPORT SO MY KNOWLEDGE OF RADIOS IN 2019 WAS VERY LIMITED AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS HANDLED THE RADIO SYSTEM IN THE COUNTY FOR THE PAST DECADE AND WITH A HISTORY AS WELL AT ONE POINT THE SYSTEM WAS MANAGED BY IT COMING OVER TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
IN 2019 WHEN I TOOK OVER MY HISTORY OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS OPERATIONS I NEVER DEALT WITH COMMUNICATIONS.
ONE THING I WOULD SAY AND I TOOK OVER AS CHIEF I SHOULD'VE BROUGHT MYSELF UP TO SPEED MORE AND HOW IT WORKS.
STEP TWO TO UNDERSTAND HOW LONG THINGS TAKE TO GET MOVING.
EVERYTHING TAKES FOREVER. AND UNDERSTANDING HOW LONG THINGS TAKE TO BUILD.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THEY WERE BUILDING THE RADIOS AS WE ORDERED THEM. THEY BUILD THEM ON SHIITE -- -- ON SITE AND SHIP THEM.
I DO NOT KNOW THAT THAT THERE WAS A WAREHOUSE BUT JUST THAT WORK WE HAD TO DO.
HINDSIGHT IS 2020 I WOULD HAVE EDUCATED MYSELF A LOT MORE I PROBABLY WOULD'VE DELAYED THOSE RADIO ORDERS UNTIL WE WERE FURTHER ALONG'S WILL HAVE WARRANTY ISSUES AND MITIGATED THOSE CHALLENGES. I HAVE LEARNED CONTRACTS ARE IMPORTANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING FROM MOBILE TWO DASH CREATES A BIG PROBLEM THREE YEARS LATER. THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS I HAVE LEARNED MOVING FORWARD I NEED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC WHEN I READ DOCUMENTS.
ARE YOU REACTING GETTING SENT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEEDED A PROJECT MANAGER THAT UNDERSTOOD RADIOS.
BRINGING HIM ON WAS A HUGE HELP.
BUT MAYBE TO CONTRACT WOULD BE BEST.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: ANYONE IN A PARTICULAR DISCIPLINE KNOWING THE ISSUES THAT YOU STEPPED INTO AND DIDN'T KNOW.
YOU SAID I WILL TAKE THE CHALLENGE.
BUT THERE IS A BASE OF INFORMATION THAT WOULD'VE BEEN HELPFUL IN RETROSPECT WE SHOULD HAVE INVESTED IN PROJECT MANAGERS RATHER THAN PUT IT ON THE ACHIEVE.
>> OR A COMMITTEE WHO WAS IMPACTED? IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN XT AND IT COMMITTEES SHOULD HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE BEGINNING.
NOW FROM MOTOROLA'S PERSPECTIVE WE HAD A PROJECT MANAGER BUT NOBODY INTERNAL UNTIL WE BROUGHT HIM ON.
NOW DEALING WITH THE DAY-TO-DAY THINGS WHILE ADDRESSING THIS PROJECT AS WELL. YOU ARE RIGHT.
WE NEED A DEDICATED PERSON WHO JUST DID THIS OVER THE LAST
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COUPLE OF YEARS.>> WHO IS YOUR BOSS? [LAUGHTER] THAT IS A PROBLEM.
>> BUT I LIKE THE IDEA THE COUNTY MANAGER IS EXTREMELY CAPABLE. I DON'T KNOW WHO BUT PROGRAM MANAGEMENT IS SO CRITICAL AND GOVERNMENT. ESPECIALLY SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO COORDINATE WITH MULTIPLE AGENCIES FOR QUITE FREQUENTLY -- -- FREQUENTLY DIDN'T ASK FOR HELP EARLY ENOUGH WITH 18 OTHERS COULD HAVE HELPED YOU OUT AS WE GET THE PROJECT MANAGER TO DO A LOT OF INTEGRATION AND LESSON LEARNED BY BOTTOM LINE, YOUR TAKEN ACCOUNTABILITY AND RESPONSIBILITY AND I APPRECIATE THAT A LOT.
I'M PRETTY MUCH DONE ON MY SLIDES BUT.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: THERE'S A QUESTION IN THE BACK OF THE
ROOM. >> WE ARE ALSO CHASING FUNDING THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.
SO THE INITIAL 2 MILLION-DOLLAR BOND THAT THE COUNTY FLOATED FOR THE SYSTEM WAS INSUFFICIENT TO COMPLETE THE SYSTEM.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: THAT'S WE FIND OUT ABOUT MOST THINGS
>> DAVE RYAN DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IN PUEBLO AND MAYOR PRO TEM.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ALSO HINDERS THE CHIEF RIGHT NOW IS OUR SYSTEM ON VHF YOU WANTED TO GIVE US RADIOS FOR EMS PERK I TOLD HIM I DON'T WANT NEW EQUIPMENT UNTIL WE KNOW IT WORKS. OUR STAFF IS WORKING NOW.
I DON'T WANT TO PUT IN NEW EQUIPMENT WE DON'T KNOW 100 PERCENT IS NOT WORKING.
I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE RADIO CHANGES.
I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE OUR STUFF UNTIL THAT IS UP AND RUNNING. IT IS NOW ON CHIEF MASTERSON.
>> I DID NOT ASK HIM TO SAY THAT.
[LAUGHTER] >> I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY AS WELL.
I CAME FROM PRESBYTERIAN AND WE HAD A LARGE PROGRAM LIKE THIS. WE HAVE A BUNCH OF RETIRED POLICE CAPTAINS FROM ALBUQUERQUE POLICE A WAY THAT WE COULD DO IT.
WE NEEDED A PROJECT MANAGER AND WE THOUGHT SHE WAS THE SMARTEST PERSON IN THE WORLD BECAUSE EVERYTHING SHE BROUGHT TO THE PROJECT. MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PIECES OF EQUIPMENT. HE DIDN'T KNOW THAT. WE DID NOT KNOW THAT UNTIL YOU KNOW IT.
KUDOS DO ALL THE WORK. I AGREE WITH THE DAYS.
COMMISSIONER, TRUSTEE, HE DID NOT HAVE A LOT OF HELP.
PEOPLE WERE NOT TAKING IT AS IMPORTANT AS HE THOUGHT IT WAS. THEY WERE NOT TAKING THEIR PEACE AND RUNNING WITH IT.
THEY WERE EXPECTING HIM TO COME WITH ALL OF THESE THINGS AND THEN BLAMING HIM FOR NOT DOING IT.
WE ARE WILLING TO HELP PUSH THIS ALONG.
KUDOS FOR DOING EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE SO FAR.
LET US KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP.
ALSO FOR THE COMMISSION THE CHIEF IS A REALLY STARTED TALKING WITH THE VILLAGE COUNCIL.
THEY HAVE A TOWER WE MAY BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH THEM TO GET INFRASTRUCTURE TO HELP WITH A HIGHWAY FOR CORRIDOR.
I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
>> [INAUDIBLE] >> ANOTHER THING I WOULD RECOMMEND MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, IS A LITTLE BIT OF A PUSH FROM YOUR OFFICES TO THE IT IN PUEBLO THEY ARE PUTTING UP MORE TOWERS.
CHIEF MASTERSON HAS MADE CONTACT WITH OUR DIRECTOR OF IT.
IF WE GET THE TOWERS UP WHERE THEY PUT THEM IN CHIEF MASTERSON ALREADY FOUND THOSE IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IT COULD BE BETTER FOR THE CORRIDOR.
THAT'S I'M INTERESTED IN BUT THE WHOLE SYSTEM TO WORK MAY BE
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A LITTLE PUSH FROM YOU GUYS TO OUR GUYS COULD HELP GET THAT DONE QUICKER.>> I WILL ECHO THAT. AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT ENTITIES.
WE TEND TO LOSE COMMUNICATION WITH THEM EVEN KNOW THERE IS INFRASTRUCTURE WE CAN PIGGYBACK.
>> I APPRECIATE WHAT THEY ARE SAYING.
BUT YOU ARE ALREADY OUT HERE AND THIS FAR AHEAD.
SO TO ADDRESS EITHER OF THEIR INTEREST NOW YOU HAVE TO PUT THEM INTO THE EQUATION TO WHERE THEY GET RADIOS.
YOU SHOULD HAVE THE PLAN THAT SAYS BOOM BOOM THROUGHOUT THEY ARE YOUR FRIENDS AND ALLIES THEY SAY THAT WANT THEM UNTIL UP AND RUNNING 100 PERCENT.
WHAT GET SOMEBODY UP 100 PERCENT AND GET THEM OUT OF THE WAY.
THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BATTERIES THOSE ARE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS ISSUED OR SOMETHING AT THE STATE
WE NEED TO RELINQUISH THE ASSETS AND GET THEM OFF OUR PLATES. BUT I WANT THOSE NUMBERS TO BE ZERO WHICH IS COMING.
BUT I HEAR YOU. >> CHAIRMAN HEIL: IS IT TOO LATE TO CONTRACT FROM SOMEBODY UNDERSTANDS THE TECHNICAL PIECES OF THIS? MAY BE A BETTER PROJECT MANAGER THAN YOURSELF? YOU DO HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT TO RUN.
MAYBE THAT'S A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION OR A COMMITTEE WE CAN PUT TOGETHER WITH INTERESTED PARTIES.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THE NUANCES OF THE SYSTEM. THIS GENTLEMAN NEXT TO HAS DONE HIS PART BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF DIMENSIONS THAT NEED TO BE WORKED ON.
I'M CONCERNED BY APRIL WE START 641 RADIOS WHICH IS SLIGHTLY LESS THAN HALF THAT NEED TO BE DISPERSED.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE NUMBERS WE SORT OF UNDERSTAND THE 618 GOING TO RIO RANCHO BUT LOOK AT THE RADIOS THE OTHERS HAVE RECEIVED WHAT IS THE STORY REGARDS TO THEM? THEY ARE IN THE SAME AREA WHERE THOSE TOWERS ARE WORKING.
WHY DON'T THEY HAVE THEIR RADIOS?
>> IT JUST GOES BACK TO SOME OF THE ISSUES WE WERE HAVING ON THE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE.
WORKING WITH A PARTNER ENTITIES.
I DID NOT PUT APPEAR THE CHALLENGES BUT THE LOCAL SHOP MAKING THE INSTALLS HAS WITHDRAWN AND NOW THEY HAVE TO COME FROM EL PASO.
EVERY TIME I TURN AROUND IT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE.
THERE WAS A SHOP HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE INSTALLING ALL THE RADIOS NOW THEY CLOSED NOW WE SEND PEOPLE FROM EL PASO.
COORDINATING WITH THEM HAS BECOME A CHALLENGE.
I KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE EXCUSES.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANTED BUT IT IS A LIST OF CHALLENGES THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS.
NOW THEY DON'T WANT TO COME UP UNLESS WE HAVE A WHOLE DAYS WORTH OF WORK THEY DON'T WANT TO, FOR ONE CAR INSTALLED THEY WANT 15 AND THAT I HAVE TO PROVIDE THE SPACE OUT A FIRE STATION TO DO THE INSTALLS.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: THAT'S WHY WE HAVE CHARLES MARTINEZ IN THE CONSTRUCTION END.
>> EVEN CHARLES AVENUE SOMEONE DEDICATED TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING AND GAVE UP P.M.
FOR THAT. I HAVE LEARNED MY LESSON.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: WHAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT OUTSIDE OF THIS MEETING IS A RESOURCES WE NEED TO INVEST TO GET THIS
JUST BASED OFF OF WHAT YOU WERE JUST SAYING WITH THE CHALLENGES AND THEN THINKING ABOUT GETTING THE RADIOS INTO THE VEHICLES, DO YOU THINK APRIL IS A FAIR ASSESSMENT OF ONE
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THAT WILL BE DONE? I GO BACK TO WHEN WE HAD THE SAME CHALLENGE.WE ONLY HAD 10 PERCENT EXTRA VEHICLES IN OUR FLEET IF WE THINK ABOUT ONLY HAVE AN EXTRA 10 PERCENT OR NOT THE VEHICLES THAT COULD BE DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE A WERE THINGS LIKE THAT. WHEN WE DID IT WE COULD ONLY DO ONE OR TWO PER DAY.
MAYBE FIVE OR SIX DONE THROUGHOUT THE WEEK.
IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THOSE HICCUPS.
SO DO YOU THINK APRIL IS A FAIR ASSESSMENT OR THAT WOULD BE FURTHER OUT FOR THE COMPLETION OF INSTALLATION? PERIOD THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION HELPING NEED TO BE REALISTIC.
I'M COMMITTED TO THAT THAT YOU ARE RIGHT.
IF THEY GET INTO A CERTAIN VEHICLE AND DISCOVER THEY ARE TELLING US THEY COULD DO 10 VEHICLES PER DAY IF WE HAVE THEM LINED UP. BUT IF THEY GET INTO ONE VEHICLE NOW SUDDENLY THAT VEHICLE FOR WHATEVER REASON IS MUCH MORE CHALLENGING TO INSTALL THE RADIO, NOW THOSE NINE VEHICLES ARE PUSHED BACK IT DELAYS THE WHOLE PROJECT.
THOSE ARE UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES WE MAY NOT EVEN REALIZE WE WILL RUN INTO UNTIL THEY START DIGGING INTO EACH CAR. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE CARS IN DIFFERENT VEHICLES THEY ARE GOING INTO. FOR EXAMPLE THE EXPEDITION HAS A POLICE PACKAGE AND CIVILIAN MODEL. CIVILIAN IS A LOT HARDER TO INSTALL.
WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW EVERYONE'S MAKE AND MODEL.
WE DO KNOW THAT BUT NOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO ALLOW US TO DO THIS. SO COMMISSIONER JONES I WILL FORWARD THIS TO ALL OF YOU, WE WILL DEVELOP THAT TIMELINE THAT WAS MENTIONED IN WORK WITH MOTOROLA AND THE VENDOR WHO WAS DOING IT.
WE WILL HAVE A PLAN EVERYONE INSTALL WHEN THEY OCCUR WHAT DAY AND WHAT LOCATION I WILL SEND THAT OUT THE DATES WILL SHOW IT'S ALL DONE BEFORE APRIL 1ST IF WE ENCOUNTER ISSUES I WILL BE TRANSPARENT AND LET YOU KNOW BUT IT WILL BE ON THE CALENDAR FEBRUARY AND MARCH TO BE INSTALLED IF NOT SOONER AND WE WILL TAKE THE NEXT MONTH TO GET IT PLANNED AND READY TO GO TO COMMUNICATE WITH EVERYONE AND SEND YOU THE SCHEDULE WHEN IT COMES OUT SO MAYBE EVERY WEDNESDAY IS DAY TO HAVE BACKLOG AND WITH PROBLEMS. IF IT'S NOT DONE BY APRIL 1ST YOU WILL NOT HAVE AN EXCUSE BUT A DETAILED REASON WHY WE ARE HAVING DELAYS.
I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER JONES.
>> J. JONES: I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE FULL FAITH IN YOU TO EXECUTE THE THANK YOU.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT COMMISSIONER JONES I WANT THIS DONE NEXT WEEK TO BE HONEST.
>> THE ONLY OTHER THINGS THAT WERE SHOWING THE SYSTEMS USAGE OVER THE LAST 10 MONTHS IS BEING USED BY DIFFERENT AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE AREA. HOW MANY TIMES THEY HAVE TRANSMITTED A MESSAGE 14000 TIMES WITH A 10 MONTH AVERAGE THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE AVERAGING RIGHT NOW 14000 TIMES AND I CAN SEND THIS PRESENTATION TO YOU HOW MANY MINUTES ON THE AIR OVER THE LAST 10 MONTHS SHOWING THE CAPACITY OF A SITE WE SAW 40 PERCENT CAPACITY SO THE REDUNDANCY IS THERE AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXPAND BASICALLY RADIOS THAT CAN BE ADDED DOWN THE ROAD TO THE SYSTEM SO WE'LL RANCHO WAS GETTING 300 RADIOS AS THEY GROW BUT WE HAVE ALREADY ALLOCATED 300 ID NUMBERS SO WHEN THEY PROCURE THEY ARE ALREADY ESTABLISHED AND THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD THAT IS THE REST OF MY PRESENTATION.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: HOW DO WE MAKE THE TRANSITION AT THE END OF THIS EFFORT IF YOU ARE SHOOTING FOR APRIL 1ST TO A SITUATION WHERE RIO RANCHO OR OTHERS ARE BUYING THEIR OWN RADIOS? IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DID THIS WITH THE PURPOSE WITH THE
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DTRS SYSTEM.I KNOW WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE DOING THIS.
>> THAT'S ANOTHER LESSON IF I HAD TO DO THIS AGAIN.
BUT MY PROPOSAL TO THE COMMISSION LIKE I SAID EARLIER WE NEED TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH A PARTNER AGENCIES TO FORMALLY RELEASE THE'S ASSETS.
DOING ASSET TRANSPORT TO THE LOCAL ENTITIES AND PART OF THAT AGREEMENT AND CONTRACT IS THEY UNDERSTAND MOVING FORWARD THE ADDITIONAL PURCHASES OF RADIOS AND/OR EQUIPMENT IS ON THAT INDEPENDENT AGENCY.
WE HAVE FULFILLED OUR COMMITMENT TO ENSURE THOSE SUBSCRIBER FEES ARE TAKEN CARE OF LUCKILY I GOT THE GOVERNOR TO COVER ONE YEAR HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET ANOTHER BUT THE ASSETS NEED TO BE FORMALLY RELEASED IN THAT DOCUMENTATION TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ADDITIONAL PURPOSES.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: SPEAKING OF THOSE CREDITS AND THE LEGISLATURE PASSES AND APPROVES THE SERVICE CREDITS, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE CREDIT WE GOT FROM THE STATE? IS THERE A WAY THOSE DON'T LOSE VALUE AS WE MOVE INTO THE
FUTURE? >> BASICALLY THEY LOOKED AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE WOULD PROVIDE BACK FOR CONNECTIVITY LIKE THE TIRES -- -- LIKE THE SYSTEM BASICALLY WHAT YOU ARE OFFERING WE WILL GIVE YOU A CREDIT SO YOU CAN GET ON BOARD WITH THE SYSTEM IT WAS MORE OF A SUBSIDY THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE A GOOD PARTNER WITH US AND THAT'S WHAT WE GET OUT OF IT.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A BANK ACCOUNT SET ASIDE BUT PART OF THAT MONEY TO USE FOR SUBSCRIBER FEES CAN BE GO BACK INTO INVESTING INTO THE OVERALL SYSTEM SPECIFICALLY IN THOSE AREAS WITH LIMITED COVERAGE.
WE WILL HOLD THE STATE THERE'S NO REAL VALUE.
IT WAS A SUBSIDY WE WILL HOLD THE STATE TO BE IN GOOD PARTNERS TO HELP US ALONG THE WAY.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: HE JUST RAISED HIS FINGERS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THOSE WHO HAVE NOT ASKED QUESTIONS? MR. JAMES.
MY QUESTION IS MORE DIRECTED TO BOTH OF YOU.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: DOES EVERYBODY KNOW WHO YOU ARE?
BUT TALK ABOUT TOWERS, THE STATE TOWERS IN THE COUNTY.
MY ASSUMPTION IS YOU WILL ALSO USE SOME OF THE TOWERS? SO THE QUESTION IS IF THE STATE BUILDS HER OWN TOWERS AND THEY ARE LINKING THOSE TOWERS IS THE MO YOU AVAILABLE FOR US TO USE FOR OTHER PURPOSES?
>> IF WE WANT TO HANG OTHER EQUIPMENT OFF OF THAT IS THERE AN AGREEMENT TO DO THAT?
>> THE STATE HAS A METHOD IN WHICH WE ALLOW OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES TO SHARE TOWERS BASE AND WE ARE OPEN TO DO THAT.
AS LONG AS IT IS A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: CAN WE APPLY OUR CREDITS TO THE LEASE?
>> I DON'T KNOW. BUT WE COULD LOOK INTO IT.
>> HE IS A GOOD PERSON WE WILL TALK
TO HIM. TO BE DETERMINED. >> THANK YOU.
>> M. MEEK: I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY TO THE GROUP THANK
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YOU EVERYBODY WHO HAS ATTENDED.EVERYBODY KNEW THIS WAS GOING ON WHERE WE ARE GOING? AS ANYBODY SHOCKED?
>> I AM THE ASSISTANT CHIEF FROM THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT. I'M GLAD I CAME BECAUSE IT CLEAR THE AIR FOR ME AND I WILL TAKE IT BACK TO MY STATION WHY THINGS ARE NOT GOING AS FAST TODAY AS THEY WERE BE GOING WE DID RECEIVE SOME OF OUR RADIOS AND RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY USING THEM.
BUT WE WERE THINKING WHERE IS THE REST? WHY ISN'T THIS MOVING OR GOING AS FAST AS WE THOUGHT AS IT WOULD BE? WE THOUGHT TWO YEARS AGO.
THIS CLEARED UP THE AIR AND NOW WE UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS TAKING THE TIME IT IS TAKING.
>> MR. CHAIR THANK YOU FOR GETTING THE WORK SESSION TOGETHER IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO AIR THIS OUT.
I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THAT.
THANK YOU TO THE STAFF AND THE COUNTY MANAGER FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. YOU HAVE MY FULL SUPPORT AND CONFIDENCE.
AND ALSO WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR FOR BEING HERE.
THE PUEBLO IS REPRESENTED THE FIRST RESPONDERS AND THE STATE.
YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB CHIEF TO BUILD THESE RELATIONSHIPS ALONG THE COUNTY WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
I THINK THIS IS BEEN VERY BENEFICIAL FOR THE PUBLIC IF THEY WANT TO WATCH THIS DOWN THE ROAD IF THEY GET BORED.
BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND AGAIN THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS MR.
CHAIR. >> IF I CAN SAY ONE FINAL THING UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS I KNOW SOME AGENCIES WERE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE THIS PRESENTATION IN CONVERSATIONS TO THEM.
SANTA ANNA HAS REACHED OUT TO HAVE ANOTHER SESSION WITH THEIR GOVERNOR AND I INTEND TO SCHEDULE THAT SOON.
ANY OTHER AGENCY THAT DID NOT HAVE FULL REPRESENTATION OR HEARD STUFF TODAY AND ONCE MORE DETAILED ANALYSIS BASED ON THEIR COMMUNITY PERK I WILL GO TO THEM.
THEY CAN CONTACT ME AND I WILL GO THERE TO DISCUSS THIS.
MY HOPE WITH THIS WORK SESSION IS SOME OF THESE VARIOUS CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING THAT COMMISSIONER BLOCK SAID TO CLEAR THE AIR EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHERE WE ARE AT PERK I WILL TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY WITH MY ERRORS.
I ABSOLUTELY WILL. ANYONE IS WELCOME TO CALL ME AT ANY TIME AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ME. I DON'T CARE I WILL THE 20 COUNCIL MEETING OR COMMISSION MEETING OR VILLAGE MEETING TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT THERE'S A PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE AT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS KNOWN AS WELL.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: A COUPLE OF POINTS.
WE NEED ANOTHER ONE OF THESE VISITS IN FEBRUARY TO SEE HOW YOU ARE TRACKING. I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A SERIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT YOU GETTING HELP. WE CANNOT SLIP ON THIS AGAIN.
WE DON'T LOOK GOOD AS A COUNTY HOW THIS HAS TRANSPIRED.
I KNOW FROM HAVING SOLD TECHNICAL STUFF BEFORE IN MY CAREER A LOT OF STUFF CAN GO WRONG.
IN FACT I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THIS BUT IF YOU READ THIS YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF THE ISSUES.
WHAT I'M POINTING TO IS THE SANDOVAL MMR STATE OF NEW MEXICO NOTES ON WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR STEPPING OUT AND TAKING LEADERSHIP.
BUT I SERIOUSLY THINK WE NEED TO BE SURE THAT YOU GET THE HELP THAT YOU NEED THAT UNDERSTANDS THE NEIGHBORHOOD IT IS RUNNING IN. I THINK THAT IS PART OF THE PROBLEM HERE.
FOR ALL OF YOUR DESIRE TO DO IT RIGHT AND GET IT DONE I THINK YOU NEED SOME HELP TO FIND THE BACK STREETS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE.
BECAUSE WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO DRAG THIS OUT.
APRIL 1 HAS TO BE THE DATE WHETHER FLOGGING DASH FLOGGING IN THE CENTER WORK COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT.
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I DIDN'T THANK YOU WOULD GO THAT FAR LEFT LEFT NOW I NEED A PROJECT MANAGER TOMORROW.
>> WHAT TIME IS THAT EVENT? [LAUGHTER] APRIL FOOLS.
>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: NO OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> I SPENT MY CAREER WORKING WITH COMPANIES WITH AT&T AND VERIZON AND BRITISH TELECOM AND ALL OF THE MAJORS ON THE TECHNOLOGY ROLLOUT.
THEY ALL HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON.
THEY NEVER MET THEIR SCHEDULES ON TECHNOLOGY ROLLOUT.
THE PROBLEM IS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW.
BUT WHAT KILL SHE WAS WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW.
IF YOU BRING IN A PROJECT MANAGER, MAKE SURE YOU BRING IN A CERTIFIED PROJECT MANAGER THAT KNOWS THE BODY OF KNOWLEDGE.
BECAUSE THEY CAN MAKE YOUR LIFE A WHOLE LOT EASIER.
THINGS LIKE THIS YOU DON'T DO VERY OFTEN, THAT'S WHAT THESE GUYS CAN DO FULL TIME.
THERE'S A LOT OF COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT WILL COME IN AND MANAGE THE PROJECT FOR YOU.
>> CHAIRMAN HEIL: THANK YOU, MAYOR.
OF NO OTHER COMMENTS THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT SESSION LIKE THIS IN THE FEBRUARY TIMEFRAME TO UPDATE EVERYBODY WE WILL CALL THE WORKSHOP
ADJOURNED. >> THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.